Barack Obama had been losing ground to Hillary Clinton in the upcoming primaries for much of the past two weeks: Pennsylvania surveys were showing Clinton up more than 20% lately, and she had pulled almost even with the Illinois Senator in North Carolina. While not enough to seriously endanger Obama’s firm grip on the nomination, such results would drag on the race for weeks and months beyond May 6th.
Two new polls from these two states, however, are the first to suggest that Obama might have stopped the bleeding and regained some ground now that the Wright controversy has lost its novelty. The movement among white voters in North Carolina could also suggest that Obama’s race speech last week helped him control some of the damage:
- A Rasmussen poll of Pennsylvania shows Clinton leading 49% to 39%. That’s a slight improvement for Obama from the previous Rasmussen poll which showed her up 52% to 39%.
Rasmussen has never showed Clinton leading Pennsylvania with the 20%+ leads other institutes have given her, so we have to keep that in mind. But it is still significant that the trendline here is favoring Obama when most other indicators pointed to Clinton expanding her advantage.
- Meanwhile, a North Carolina poll from PPP shows Obama up a massive 55% to 34%. Two weeks ago, Clinton had pulled within 1%, so this is a very significant shift in Obama’s favor and the biggest lead he has ever had in any North Carolina poll.
- The main reason for this shift appears to be a move among white voters, who now favor Clinton 47% to 40% only instead of 56% to 30%.
The expectations game has more or less attributed Pennsylvania to Clinton and North Carolina to Obama, so neither candidate have that much to gain from these two victories. But an unexpectedly small or large margin could shake up the race. In Pennsylvania, pulling within single digits would be a moral victory for Obama; but if Clinton won by a significant margin (15% or more) it could sent the Obama campaign into its own downward spiral. The same is true in reverse in North Carolina.
The most suspenseful state voting by May 6th is Indiana — mostly because there is almost no polling and that the demographics don’t necessarily favor any candidate — but that doesn’t mean that Clinton’s fate isn’t also dependent on Pennsylvania and North Carolina. We are once again facing the very same questions we tried to answer in the run-up to March 4th: What does Clinton need to justify her staying in the race after early May? Certainly a win on April 22nd and at least one on May 6th. But is that enough? How triumphant do her victories have to be?
On March 4th, her three victories accompanied by her double-digit edge in Ohio were enough to keep her going, but Clinton is now facing a different challenge. She needs to build such momentum as to give pause to superdelegates and convince them that handing the nod to Obama would be too risky for the general election. Such an effort will require her to get a truly convincing victory in Pennsylvania (much larger than she did in Ohio) and pull so close in North Carolina as to argue that Obama’s numbers are collapsing and that his base is deserting him.
These two polls released today show that Obama has what it takes to prevent this scenario; but other polls taken in the past 2 weeks show that Clinton has enough room to rise to get the numbers she needs. Which is what keeps the Democratic race so interesting, however much Hillary’s chances have diminished.

8 responses so far ↓
Anonymous // March 25, 2008 at 6:20 pm
The race is over, Clinton drop out for the good of the country.
Anonymous // March 25, 2008 at 6:30 pm
I would treat the North Carolina PPP poll with some skepticism. These are the same pollsters that had Hillary leading in Pennsylvania 56% to 30% a few days ago. I’m not sure why but they seem to be out of the polling mainsteam.
Another small point about the March 4th results. Hillary didn’t win three states. Texas was at best a draw; she won the primary popular vote and Obama won the caucas and most importantly the most delagates.
Anonymous // March 25, 2008 at 6:53 pm
I agree with the conclusion that Clinton has to do big things in PA and then do well in NC and IN. She can’t have a close result like TX and coast by. Times are changing, the number of remaining delegates is dwindling.
It looks like there is increased talk that the fight could be over by early May since only a few states would remain and OR is the only one that is Democratic and of any size (no disrespect to Montana or South Dekota).
Anonymous // March 25, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Clinton can’t justify staying in the race now and that post was just blah,blah,blah, garbage. Again unless we find out Obama is a terrorist or worse, Hillary would need better than 60% in EVERY remaining state to close the delegate gap and need an even higher per cent to close the popular vote gap. Do you forget that 40 states have voted already? Someone please tell Hillary to turn out the light as she leaves. But I fear she would rather destroy the party to sate her ego.
Mark // March 25, 2008 at 11:43 pm
The older NC poll was taken while the Universities were on spring break. The newer was taken when they were back in session. Certainly doesn’t account for a 20 point swing, but part of it, to be sure.
PPP is not the most reliable poster on the planet, but no bum either.
Clinton wins PA (between 53-56%)
Obama wins NC (57-60%)
Obama wins IN (52-53%, I think).
Game over for Clinton.
Anonymous // March 25, 2008 at 11:53 pm
don’t put a fork in Clinton yet–Obama will not have the nomination sewn up by Convention time.
Anonymous // March 26, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Mark - interesting predictions. I would like to see the results go the way you suggest. Since it woul dbe game over - she would have done little better in PA than OH and Obama would have won both on May 6th. He would have had no reduction in his primary vote count lead or pledged delegates. Then the pool of remaining contests would be small fry like SD and Guam!
Anonymous // March 27, 2008 at 1:35 am
Game over for Obama…he isn’t going to win anything….he’s done! He’s either done in the primaries or GE. Wait and see.
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